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		<title>By: Julie</title>
		<link>http://menexplained.com/the-list/comment-page-1/#comment-260</link>
		<dc:creator>Julie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Dec 2009 04:41:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am about a year late to the game.  However, Good job guys.  I am not sure why some took such offense over some of the points on your list.  No compiled list of a man&#039;s wants, wishes or desires would fit EVERY man 100%.  Reading through this list and employing a little common sense would allow anyone to grasp the general idea.  Which I think is what you guys were going for.  

Any woman who thinks that her man would not WANT to embrace a majority of these points is a fool.  It would lead me to believe that she has had many short relationships or the men she dates are borderline gay. 

The reality is this...The list above may be how a guy thinks.  This list may be a man&#039;s ideal in a testosterone ruled utopia.  The fact of the matter is, they set aside some of this for our sake.  Not because they like it, but for the sake of peace.  Men are men.  Men do not have a feminine side, at least they shouldn&#039;t and we shouldn&#039;t expect them to. 

My husband and I have a wonderful relationship.  I think it is because I figured most of this out early on.  I don&#039;t expect him to read my mind.  I appreciate the fact that he keeps a card in his wallet with my clothing sizes, the perfume I wear and a list of things I have said that I would like for my birthday or Christmas.(smart man) I have even gone so far as to email him links to things I like. I recognize he wants facts and really can not relate if I argue based on emotion. I also know he is never going to tell me something makes me look fat, especially is we are getting ready to go somewhere.  The last thing he wants to do is wait for me to find something else to wear.   

Just because he wants time alone, likes hanging out with his friends, thinks about sex at least once every 10 minutes or enjoys a blowjob does not make him less of a family man.  To suggest otherwise is just plain foolish.

Alright...I am going to step down off my soap box.  I will wrap this up with this...Women, if you are smart, you will read this and recognize that even though your man may say this list does not describe him...he wishes it could be him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am about a year late to the game.  However, Good job guys.  I am not sure why some took such offense over some of the points on your list.  No compiled list of a man&#8217;s wants, wishes or desires would fit EVERY man 100%.  Reading through this list and employing a little common sense would allow anyone to grasp the general idea.  Which I think is what you guys were going for.  </p>
<p>Any woman who thinks that her man would not WANT to embrace a majority of these points is a fool.  It would lead me to believe that she has had many short relationships or the men she dates are borderline gay. </p>
<p>The reality is this&#8230;The list above may be how a guy thinks.  This list may be a man&#8217;s ideal in a testosterone ruled utopia.  The fact of the matter is, they set aside some of this for our sake.  Not because they like it, but for the sake of peace.  Men are men.  Men do not have a feminine side, at least they shouldn&#8217;t and we shouldn&#8217;t expect them to. </p>
<p>My husband and I have a wonderful relationship.  I think it is because I figured most of this out early on.  I don&#8217;t expect him to read my mind.  I appreciate the fact that he keeps a card in his wallet with my clothing sizes, the perfume I wear and a list of things I have said that I would like for my birthday or Christmas.(smart man) I have even gone so far as to email him links to things I like. I recognize he wants facts and really can not relate if I argue based on emotion. I also know he is never going to tell me something makes me look fat, especially is we are getting ready to go somewhere.  The last thing he wants to do is wait for me to find something else to wear.   </p>
<p>Just because he wants time alone, likes hanging out with his friends, thinks about sex at least once every 10 minutes or enjoys a blowjob does not make him less of a family man.  To suggest otherwise is just plain foolish.</p>
<p>Alright&#8230;I am going to step down off my soap box.  I will wrap this up with this&#8230;Women, if you are smart, you will read this and recognize that even though your man may say this list does not describe him&#8230;he wishes it could be him.</p>
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		<title>By: Sarah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sarah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2009 14:35:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Love

Please don&#039;t include me in the statement &quot;Emotional instability is thinking “yes, we’d like to stick it in your butt’… (and offensive to all women who read this I might add, because you are addressing women in general here)&quot;

I&#039;m a woman, and I don&#039;t find that at all offensive. I find your generalisation that no woman could possibly enjoy it and the implication that if she does she isn&#039;t normal, offensive.

And as for...

“Once we’ve told you we love you, we more or less expect that you’ll remember it. That’s why we don’t repeat it every few hours.”

Do you not get the humour in that statement?? Would you SERIOUSLY want a boyfriend to tell you that they loved you every few hours?? Don&#039;t you see that if they did it would become totally meaningless????

I couldn&#039;t be bothered to read through the rest of your rants, but I find your generalisations more offensive to women than this list.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Love</p>
<p>Please don&#8217;t include me in the statement &#8220;Emotional instability is thinking “yes, we’d like to stick it in your butt’… (and offensive to all women who read this I might add, because you are addressing women in general here)&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m a woman, and I don&#8217;t find that at all offensive. I find your generalisation that no woman could possibly enjoy it and the implication that if she does she isn&#8217;t normal, offensive.</p>
<p>And as for&#8230;</p>
<p>“Once we’ve told you we love you, we more or less expect that you’ll remember it. That’s why we don’t repeat it every few hours.”</p>
<p>Do you not get the humour in that statement?? Would you SERIOUSLY want a boyfriend to tell you that they loved you every few hours?? Don&#8217;t you see that if they did it would become totally meaningless????</p>
<p>I couldn&#8217;t be bothered to read through the rest of your rants, but I find your generalisations more offensive to women than this list.</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas</title>
		<link>http://menexplained.com/the-list/comment-page-1/#comment-37</link>
		<dc:creator>Thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 11:21:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Anna: This is not a guide to relationships. It&#039;s a half-serious, half-humorous list of things men think about dating and women. 

There are no &quot;Rules&quot;. That&#039;s the great thing about freedom of choice - if you want to spend a first date crying about how awful your last boyfriend was, you are entirely free to do so.

This list merely informs you that most men won&#039;t ask you on a second date if that happens. You don&#039;t have to accept it, you don&#039;t have to like it, and you don&#039;t have to go out with men who more or less agree with this list.

If you agree with &quot;Love&quot; and want an emotionally open man who never masturbates, incessantly tells you he loves you, would never have sex without being truly in love, and sees crying on the first date as cute and quirky, this list certainly isn&#039;t intended to prevent you from going out and trying to find one. 

The list is just telling you that it will be a long, hard search...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Anna: This is not a guide to relationships. It&#8217;s a half-serious, half-humorous list of things men think about dating and women. </p>
<p>There are no &#8220;Rules&#8221;. That&#8217;s the great thing about freedom of choice &#8211; if you want to spend a first date crying about how awful your last boyfriend was, you are entirely free to do so.</p>
<p>This list merely informs you that most men won&#8217;t ask you on a second date if that happens. You don&#8217;t have to accept it, you don&#8217;t have to like it, and you don&#8217;t have to go out with men who more or less agree with this list.</p>
<p>If you agree with &#8220;Love&#8221; and want an emotionally open man who never masturbates, incessantly tells you he loves you, would never have sex without being truly in love, and sees crying on the first date as cute and quirky, this list certainly isn&#8217;t intended to prevent you from going out and trying to find one. </p>
<p>The list is just telling you that it will be a long, hard search&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Anna</title>
		<link>http://menexplained.com/the-list/comment-page-1/#comment-36</link>
		<dc:creator>Anna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2009 21:47:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Heh, I&#039;m liking your arguments, Love, especially this one: &quot;And if they are emotionally unstable, well, then they are and will be anyway, so why do you tell them not to cry on a first date?&quot;

I also agree that if you like someone, you find things attractive that might repel you on someone you don&#039;t like as much. It&#039;s the difference between quirky and cute, and just plain weird.

It&#039;s funny, I followed a link to this page because someone said it was a much better guide to relationships than &#039;The Rules&#039; - to me it seems just as narrow and one-dimensional.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heh, I&#8217;m liking your arguments, Love, especially this one: &#8220;And if they are emotionally unstable, well, then they are and will be anyway, so why do you tell them not to cry on a first date?&#8221;</p>
<p>I also agree that if you like someone, you find things attractive that might repel you on someone you don&#8217;t like as much. It&#8217;s the difference between quirky and cute, and just plain weird.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s funny, I followed a link to this page because someone said it was a much better guide to relationships than &#8216;The Rules&#8217; &#8211; to me it seems just as narrow and one-dimensional.</p>
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		<title>By: Love</title>
		<link>http://menexplained.com/the-list/comment-page-1/#comment-32</link>
		<dc:creator>Love</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 17:58:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wow, do you think there are women out there who cry because they shop for groceries or because they have dinner with you? (well, actually I wouldn&#039;t be amazed, I didn&#039;t know what to do when I read this list, to laugh or to cry) Should they cry on a first date, they MUST have a reason, they don&#039;t cry because they shop for groceries or eat or drink or meet you. And if they are emotionally unstable, well, then they are and will be anyway, so why do you tell them not to cry on a first date? You don&#039;t want to know? You&#039;ll know later anyway if the woman is emotionally unstable. Can&#039;t you see so the whole thing is absurd?

By the way, this: 

&quot;Once we’ve told you we love you, we more or less expect that you’ll remember it. That’s why we don’t repeat it every few hours.&quot;

Is one of the most patronizing statements I&#039;ve ever read and it shows exactly what you think of women and it also shows that you haven&#039;t got a clue what love means. 

Thank you for your good luck wishes though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wow, do you think there are women out there who cry because they shop for groceries or because they have dinner with you? (well, actually I wouldn&#8217;t be amazed, I didn&#8217;t know what to do when I read this list, to laugh or to cry) Should they cry on a first date, they MUST have a reason, they don&#8217;t cry because they shop for groceries or eat or drink or meet you. And if they are emotionally unstable, well, then they are and will be anyway, so why do you tell them not to cry on a first date? You don&#8217;t want to know? You&#8217;ll know later anyway if the woman is emotionally unstable. Can&#8217;t you see so the whole thing is absurd?</p>
<p>By the way, this: </p>
<p>&#8220;Once we’ve told you we love you, we more or less expect that you’ll remember it. That’s why we don’t repeat it every few hours.&#8221;</p>
<p>Is one of the most patronizing statements I&#8217;ve ever read and it shows exactly what you think of women and it also shows that you haven&#8217;t got a clue what love means. </p>
<p>Thank you for your good luck wishes though.</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas</title>
		<link>http://menexplained.com/the-list/comment-page-1/#comment-31</link>
		<dc:creator>Thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 17:37:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Love: a first date is usually a lighthearted social thing. Given that context, it&#039;s not sensitive. It&#039;s a sign of emotional instability.

Crying at a funeral is normal. Crying while shopping for groceries is not. Crying when someone breaks up with you is normal. Crying when you take a slice of pizza is not. Crying when Bambi&#039;s mother dies is normal. Crying when having dinner with someone you&#039;ve never met before is not.

Are you getting the picture here?

And obviously, what&#039;s being referred to is not crying because you cut some onions. 

But anyway... good luck.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Love: a first date is usually a lighthearted social thing. Given that context, it&#8217;s not sensitive. It&#8217;s a sign of emotional instability.</p>
<p>Crying at a funeral is normal. Crying while shopping for groceries is not. Crying when someone breaks up with you is normal. Crying when you take a slice of pizza is not. Crying when Bambi&#8217;s mother dies is normal. Crying when having dinner with someone you&#8217;ve never met before is not.</p>
<p>Are you getting the picture here?</p>
<p>And obviously, what&#8217;s being referred to is not crying because you cut some onions. </p>
<p>But anyway&#8230; good luck.</p>
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		<title>By: Love</title>
		<link>http://menexplained.com/the-list/comment-page-1/#comment-30</link>
		<dc:creator>Love</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 17:01:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yep..poor me, I&#039;m probably both, too young and too naive, you&#039;d be shocked if you knew how young and naive I am.

Since when is crying a sign of emotional instability? Emotional instability is thinking &quot;yes, we&#039;d like to stick it in your butt&#039;... (and offensive to all women who read this I might add, because you are addressing women in general here) AND very young AND very naive, emotional instability is to talk to your friends about your sex life in &#039;exaggerated detail&#039;, emotional instability is being afraid of expressing one&#039;s feelings. Why do you confuse &#039;sensitivity&#039; with &#039;emotional instability&#039; ? 

Love may come later in a relationship (although definitely not always), but when you like someone, you like someone. When you don&#039;t, you don&#039;t. Something that would put you off a person you don&#039;t like might seem very attractive on someone you do like. You want to be in control of what you like and what you don&#039;t like. Don&#039;t you realize that you are not? 

There is absolutely no point in trying to &#039;behave&#039; in a certain way, according to a rule book or a list, you cannot be someone else, you can only be the person you are. And I suppose everyone wants someone to like us the way we are and not the way we try to act because a list or a rule book says so. 

Not talking about the fact that the motive for one&#039;s tears doesn&#039;t seem to be important to you at all, in assessing if a person is emotionally unstable or not. I might peel an onion on my first date, for God&#039;s sake, who knows, I might want to cook for you and save you the money to take me out to a restaurant, would I be emotionally unstable if I cried? Oh...I see, no, I&#039;d be a &#039;nutter&#039; then, for thinking that I may want to cook for you on our first date. So .. WHAT? I may be a &#039;nutter&#039; but then I am looking for someone who likes me as I am, why would I want to try to be someone else?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep..poor me, I&#8217;m probably both, too young and too naive, you&#8217;d be shocked if you knew how young and naive I am.</p>
<p>Since when is crying a sign of emotional instability? Emotional instability is thinking &#8220;yes, we&#8217;d like to stick it in your butt&#8217;&#8230; (and offensive to all women who read this I might add, because you are addressing women in general here) AND very young AND very naive, emotional instability is to talk to your friends about your sex life in &#8216;exaggerated detail&#8217;, emotional instability is being afraid of expressing one&#8217;s feelings. Why do you confuse &#8217;sensitivity&#8217; with &#8216;emotional instability&#8217; ? </p>
<p>Love may come later in a relationship (although definitely not always), but when you like someone, you like someone. When you don&#8217;t, you don&#8217;t. Something that would put you off a person you don&#8217;t like might seem very attractive on someone you do like. You want to be in control of what you like and what you don&#8217;t like. Don&#8217;t you realize that you are not? </p>
<p>There is absolutely no point in trying to &#8216;behave&#8217; in a certain way, according to a rule book or a list, you cannot be someone else, you can only be the person you are. And I suppose everyone wants someone to like us the way we are and not the way we try to act because a list or a rule book says so. </p>
<p>Not talking about the fact that the motive for one&#8217;s tears doesn&#8217;t seem to be important to you at all, in assessing if a person is emotionally unstable or not. I might peel an onion on my first date, for God&#8217;s sake, who knows, I might want to cook for you and save you the money to take me out to a restaurant, would I be emotionally unstable if I cried? Oh&#8230;I see, no, I&#8217;d be a &#8216;nutter&#8217; then, for thinking that I may want to cook for you on our first date. So .. WHAT? I may be a &#8216;nutter&#8217; but then I am looking for someone who likes me as I am, why would I want to try to be someone else?</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas</title>
		<link>http://menexplained.com/the-list/comment-page-1/#comment-29</link>
		<dc:creator>Thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 16:12:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Love: You are probably very young or just very naive. Either way, you have some seriously twisted views.

Love isn&#039;t something that&#039;s instantly there. True love develops as you get to know the other person, not the moment you meet them. Because however romantic love at first sight might seem, in the end it is superficial because you don&#039;t actually know the person in question yet.

So yes, it does matter what you do on the first date. Opening up too much to a person you&#039;ve just met, for example by crying or telling far too much about yourself, simply is not a good way to start a relationship. It&#039;s a clear sign of emotional instability.

Also, masturbation is perfectly normal, even if someone is in a happy, loving relationship. To quote Sue Johanson: &quot;99 percent of men of all ages masturbate regularly and the other one percent are liars.&quot;

Being comfortable with your sexuality is a good thing, regardless of whether you&#039;re a man or a woman. Masturbation is healthy sexual behavior. It allows you to explore your body and get to know it better, which will improve your sex life with your partner.

You might think you&#039;re a romantic, but honestly, you&#039;re not. You&#039;re just very misguided...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Love: You are probably very young or just very naive. Either way, you have some seriously twisted views.</p>
<p>Love isn&#8217;t something that&#8217;s instantly there. True love develops as you get to know the other person, not the moment you meet them. Because however romantic love at first sight might seem, in the end it is superficial because you don&#8217;t actually know the person in question yet.</p>
<p>So yes, it does matter what you do on the first date. Opening up too much to a person you&#8217;ve just met, for example by crying or telling far too much about yourself, simply is not a good way to start a relationship. It&#8217;s a clear sign of emotional instability.</p>
<p>Also, masturbation is perfectly normal, even if someone is in a happy, loving relationship. To quote Sue Johanson: &#8220;99 percent of men of all ages masturbate regularly and the other one percent are liars.&#8221;</p>
<p>Being comfortable with your sexuality is a good thing, regardless of whether you&#8217;re a man or a woman. Masturbation is healthy sexual behavior. It allows you to explore your body and get to know it better, which will improve your sex life with your partner.</p>
<p>You might think you&#8217;re a romantic, but honestly, you&#8217;re not. You&#8217;re just very misguided&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Love</title>
		<link>http://menexplained.com/the-list/comment-page-1/#comment-28</link>
		<dc:creator>Love</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 15:42:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Those &#039;several dozens&#039; men, must have the following in common: they are all cynics, they haven&#039;t got a clue what love is and they haven&#039;t evolved from the animal kingdom. 

Your list may be valid if you DON&#039;T like a woman and if you&#039;re not in love with her. When you do, nothing is valid anymore, because love takes over, man or woman.

Some of the things you listed there have nothing to do with being a man, they are valid for both sexes, and some are valid just in - excuse me - sick minds!

You make it UGLY, very ugly, sex should be an expression of love, as it happens, we are human beings, not animals, why do you have to make it ugly and speak in the name of men? 

What you are doing here is actually taking women for granted and thinking women are idiots! A man who loves a woman and is loved by her, will never ever ever ever masturbate until he dies. 

What you&#039;re actually doing is trying to make women think this is the truth and they HAVE to understand poor immature men and do what men like ....

It&#039;s pathetic.

And I can assure you that you WILL ask a woman you like on a second date, even if she cries on her first one! If you don&#039;t, you don&#039;t like her, whether she cried or not! 

I can&#039;t believe the manipulating rubbish that&#039;s on this list. 

This list will attract the &#039;right&#039; women...good luck to all men out there who happily endorse this list! You will have everything you want, but never love!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those &#8217;several dozens&#8217; men, must have the following in common: they are all cynics, they haven&#8217;t got a clue what love is and they haven&#8217;t evolved from the animal kingdom. </p>
<p>Your list may be valid if you DON&#8217;T like a woman and if you&#8217;re not in love with her. When you do, nothing is valid anymore, because love takes over, man or woman.</p>
<p>Some of the things you listed there have nothing to do with being a man, they are valid for both sexes, and some are valid just in &#8211; excuse me &#8211; sick minds!</p>
<p>You make it UGLY, very ugly, sex should be an expression of love, as it happens, we are human beings, not animals, why do you have to make it ugly and speak in the name of men? </p>
<p>What you are doing here is actually taking women for granted and thinking women are idiots! A man who loves a woman and is loved by her, will never ever ever ever masturbate until he dies. </p>
<p>What you&#8217;re actually doing is trying to make women think this is the truth and they HAVE to understand poor immature men and do what men like &#8230;.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s pathetic.</p>
<p>And I can assure you that you WILL ask a woman you like on a second date, even if she cries on her first one! If you don&#8217;t, you don&#8217;t like her, whether she cried or not! </p>
<p>I can&#8217;t believe the manipulating rubbish that&#8217;s on this list. </p>
<p>This list will attract the &#8216;right&#8217; women&#8230;good luck to all men out there who happily endorse this list! You will have everything you want, but never love!</p>
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		<title>By: Yeah</title>
		<link>http://menexplained.com/the-list/comment-page-1/#comment-26</link>
		<dc:creator>Yeah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2009 19:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This really just cheered me up and i think its all true. My fellow girls should stop using men and their opinions as an excuse to be insecure.
And i would never assume you can read my mind, i&#039;m not a stupid girl.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This really just cheered me up and i think its all true. My fellow girls should stop using men and their opinions as an excuse to be insecure.<br />
And i would never assume you can read my mind, i&#8217;m not a stupid girl.</p>
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